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Kudos

Post by jacmoe » Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:06 am

Maybe you've noticed that you've got a new 'Kudos' field in your profile? :)

We have installed a Kudos mod which enables you to give Kudos to the author of a post.

So if you like a post because you find it useful, and you think the author deserves a Kudos for writing it, you can click the new Kudos button ('thumbs up') and the Kudos will be recorded.

Why did we do this? :)

Let me quote our project founder Sinbad:
I think in cases where we want to recognise good community members, some kind of karma mod might be useful where users can give kudos / karma themselves. I generally try to avoid mods, but this is one case where it would probably be justified, to make sure people get recognised for their good everyday work in the community
So, what's the basic idea?

Let me quote Masterfalcon:
masterfalcon wrote:So the basic idea is similar to rating posts on stackoverflow? I could see that being helpful, especially to new users. It could increase the confidence they have in certain peoples' advice.
Post count is not always an indicator of quality.
Kudos count could be.

Also, we want to recognize all those community members who take the time - and put effort into - writing quality posts.

If you want to be notified of when one of your posts makes you receive Kudos, you can set that up in User Control Panel - Board Preferences - Global Settings.

Thanks! :wink:
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Re: Kudos

Post by so0os » Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:24 am

Wow, cool! What happened to all the orthodox non-mod conservatism?

EDIT: uhm... and where's the thumb thingie?
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Re: Kudos

Post by betajaen » Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:52 am

Next to the quote button.
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Re: Kudos

Post by Chris Jones » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:03 am

I can't see it, theres only the report and quote buttons, nothing else.
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Re: Kudos

Post by so0os » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:13 am

Chris Jones wrote:I can't see it, theres only the report and quote buttons, nothing else.
Me too, shift-f5 doesn't help :(
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Re: Kudos

Post by jacmoe » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:12 pm

Try now. :D
You gotta love the admin interface of phpBB.
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Re: Kudos

Post by betajaen » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:13 pm

Yep. I see it in my test user account now.
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Re: Kudos

Post by so0os » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:19 pm

I confirm! cool ;)
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Re: Kudos

Post by Chris Jones » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:25 pm

Yep, fine now.
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Re: Kudos

Post by dustbin1_uk » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:30 pm

ahhhhh I like this!

In some other forums (ZBcentral for one) they have an annoying star system.

You rate the whole thread between 1-5 stars, and you can't then change your vote. I've seen new people there get 1 star for their work, even if it deserved better, and never post again!

This is better, someone can give you a Kudos point, and it won't hurt your ego not to get it. :D
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Re: Kudos

Post by jacmoe » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:41 pm

so0os wrote:Wow, cool! What happened to all the orthodox non-mod conservatism?
I am as shocked as you are. :)

There's two reasons for the changes:
1) Kudos Mod: We finally found the only mod that Sinbad would have installed.
2) Syntax Highlighting: It's so easy to install that it would be silly not to install it, as it costs next to nothing on our server.
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Re: Kudos

Post by DanielSefton » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:06 pm

But now it looks bad that I have 1100 posts and no kudos :D
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Re: Kudos

Post by so0os » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:12 pm

DanielSefton wrote:But now it looks bad that I have 1100 posts and no kudos :D
Here, let me save you ;)

EDIT: but I guess it's a good idea to distribute some of these for a kickstart
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Re: Kudos

Post by jacmoe » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:16 pm

Let's just get started.
It will feel a bit weird until we get used to it. :wink:
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Re: Kudos

Post by Jabberwocky » Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:17 am

Oh oh! Adding a points system to a forum full of gamers and game devs? Someone is going to exploit the system for sure. :twisted:
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Re: Kudos

Post by mkultra333 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:42 am

I've already voiced my concerns about kudos degenerating into an office politics popularity contest in the "New ranks" thread, so I won't recap that.

Instead, I just want to say I think it's being over-emphasized. It's in bold near my name, there's two links to kudos related lists at the top of every page (who's getting it, who's giving it, etc), and the forum indexes themselves list "Kudos rates" under each thread title.

It's kudos overkill. Just a plain-type number near my name and a note on the post that generated it would be plenty.
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Re: Kudos

Post by jacmoe » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:48 am

Just overlook it. It's easy enough. You won't notice it after a while.
I modded the original phpbb mod to tone it down a bit.
It's the general idea which matters.
And, most importantly: we can't please everyone. :)
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Re: Kudos

Post by spacegaier » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:48 am

But I have to cut some slack for mkultra33: I was also surprised that the kudos are bold. Think that is unneceassry and disturbing too. Would rather like to see them in normal plain (= not bold) text!
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Re: Kudos

Post by dustbin1_uk » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:54 am

spacegaier wrote:But I have to cut some slack for mkultra33: I was also surprised that the kudos are bold. Think that is unneceassry and disturbing too. Would rather like to see them in normal plain (= not bold) text!
Just get 0. I have and it's not bold. ;)

EDIT: Thank you to whoever gave me the kudos point. Now my comment makes no sense. ;) LOL
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Re: Kudos

Post by spacegaier » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:57 am

I can change that easily and suddenly that whole discussion would also concern you :P ...
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Re: Kudos

Post by Chris Jones » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:03 pm

+1 for normal/non-bold kudos count, at the very least to make it consistent with the rest of the text.
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Re: Kudos

Post by dustbin1_uk » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:13 pm

Following the Kudoses at the top there, I managed to find out the person who gave me my first ever Kudos point was so0os. Thanks so0os! :D

you can see who gives out points, who and what they gave the points to, and what points they receive.

Now I agree this is nice, but for the sake of bruised egos would you think this should be anonymous?

Not really a big deal, but just checking.
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Re: Kudos

Post by betajaen » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:38 pm

spacegaier wrote:But I have to cut some slack for mkultra33: I was also surprised that the kudos are bold. Think that is unnecessary and disturbing too. Would rather like to see them in normal plain (= not bold) text!
It's actually a unexpected style issue; ".postprofile dt.author a" specifies that all links in the .postprofile <dl> (the section to the right of your post text), should be in bold. The Kudos link is just a normal link, that the browser automatically makes bold because it's a link in the postprofile <dl>. I suppose Jacmoe could make a style css exception, but that's a bit more tricky without a class or ID to work from. I guess I could work up a kludge but it would be modern browser specific (Firefox, Chrome, Safari, and modern IE).

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Code: Select all

.postprofile strong + a
{
 font-weight: normal !important;
}
That works in Firefox 4.0b10, but that should work in other browsers since it is normal CSS.
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Re: Kudos

Post by jacmoe » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:38 pm

I could probably do something about it, if I get some additional hints from css master Betajaen. :)
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Re: Kudos

Post by betajaen » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:45 pm

Just append that code snippet to the bottom of the main css file, and you should be good to go.
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