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Post by mkultra333 » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:23 pm

Fascinating and valuable information, thanks a heap bronzebeard.

(Edit: And what the hell was up with that weird Spooky Boo post?)
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Post by spookyboo » Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:18 pm

@mkultra. I only can say that I've done some work for a well-known gamestudio that used Ogre3d. The actual game was no success as far as I know
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Post by xrgo » Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:34 pm

I want to know which company! please tell me! :twisted:
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Post by NotCamelCase » Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:28 pm

I've been following Scrap Mechanic for a while as it really appeals to me since I first encountered it and I just saw that they passed 100k sales on Steam Early Access! That's a pretty good success (although I didn't buy a copy yet ;)) and I feel like this game could be a big hit so maybe OGRE will get to draw some sweet attention/publicity out of it :D
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Post by EricB » Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:56 pm

NotCamelCase wrote:I've been following Scrap Mechanic for a while as it really appeals to me since I first encountered it and I just saw that they passed 100k sales on Steam Early Access! That's a pretty good success (although I didn't buy a copy yet ;)) and I feel like this game could be a big hit so maybe OGRE will get to draw some sweet attention/publicity out of it :D
Judging by past trends, my own game's EA trends, and Steamspy analysis of EA to Post EA release, it's safe to assume Scrap Mechanic will reach 3rd place in Ogre based game sales on Steam. Currently it's sitting at about 110k. Sales growth has stagnated, so from here on out it's all about word of mouth from updates, discounts, full release, and advertising.

As far as big hit. Torchlight I & II will still probably hold the top spots.

Outside of the realm of Ogre, Scrap Mechanic will probably be an above average for a "Builder" game (550k sales) and slightly above average for Sandbox (750k sales.)


Anyhoo I'll update the charts around March 1st.
spookyboo wrote:@mkultra. I only can say that I've done some work for a well-known gamestudio that used Ogre3d. The actual game was no success as far as I know
I'd be interested in the name of these titles. :P
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Post by Oogst » Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:25 pm

bronzebeard wrote:[*]0----------Proun--Why was this game never released on Steam?!!!
If only I had: Proun was released when most games still did well on Steam so it had a good chance of selling well back then... Now there is so much competition that the market is much more difficult.
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Post by EricB » Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:17 am

Oogst wrote:
bronzebeard wrote:[*]0----------Proun--Why was this game never released on Steam?!!!
If only I had: Proun was released when most games still did well on Steam so it had a good chance of selling well back then... Now there is so much competition that the market is much more difficult.

Was any of your other commercial games built on Ogre?


You know it's never too late to release Proun on Steam :P There is a lot of competition, but any sales are better than no sales from an existing, finished, product? Right? :P
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Post by Oogst » Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:53 pm

bronzebeard wrote:... Was any of your other commercial games built on Ogre? ...
Cello Fortress and Snowball Earth are. Cello Fortress is not finished yet (almost) and Snowball Earth was cancelled years ago, but you can download the prototype we made in Ogre here.

The other games I've worked on (Swords & Soldiers, Awesomenauts, Swords & Soldiers II) are all in our own in-house multi-platform 2D engine.
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Post by spacegaier » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:22 pm

One more Ogre based game: http://store.steampowered.com/app/403390/

wolfmanfx is right sitting at their CEGC2016 booth and confirmed it in person.
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Post by EricB » Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:58 pm

Oogst wrote:
bronzebeard wrote:... Was any of your other commercial games built on Ogre? ...
Cello Fortress and Snowball Earth are. Cello Fortress is not finished yet (almost) and Snowball Earth was cancelled years ago, but you can download the prototype we made in Ogre here.

The other games I've worked on (Swords & Soldiers, Awesomenauts, Swords & Soldiers II) are all in our own in-house multi-platform 2D engine.
I'm trying to keep the list to commercial games available for sale. I can't buy copies of Cello Fortress and Snowball Earth as far as I know. ;) So they'll be excluded from this list. Thanks for the info about the other games. :)
spacegaier wrote:One more Ogre based game: http://store.steampowered.com/app/403390/

wolfmanfx is right sitting at their CEGC2016 booth and confirmed it in person.
Awesome! I'll add it to the list in a few minutes. Thanks to you and wolfmanfx!
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Post by EricB » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:19 pm

Added Undercover Missions: Operation Kursk K-141 to both charts.
Added non-steam game: Supremacy: Four Paths To Power to the forum chart, found it on the main page testimonials.


I'll try to work in the non-steam games into the wiki forums (with links to their respected webpages) in the March update.

If you know of anymore Commercial Ogre3D games, be it on cell phone, PC, or consoles, it doesn't matter so long as it costs money and is currently running Ogre, please let us know!
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Post by spacegaier » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:11 pm

If we are not only talking about Steam, then there are a few more, e.g. "Family Farm", "Good Folks", "Lockdown Protocol" and "Minion Master".

More can be found here: http://www.desura.com/engines/ogre-engine/games
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Post by EricB » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:28 am

Wolfmanfx wrote:This one is also missing http://store.steampowered.com/app/256030/
This one is already on the list, 28th on the SteamSpy sales chart at ~27,000

spacegaier wrote:If we are not only talking about Steam, then there are a few more, e.g. "Family Farm", "Good Folks", "Lockdown Protocol" and "Minion Master".

More can be found here: http://www.desura.com/engines/ogre-engine/games
Awesome! I was looking for something like this. While not on Steam, I think it'll be good to link these as well in the list (just off the charts since we can't get sales figures for them...)
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Re: Ogre3D Based Game Sales

Post by EricB » Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:51 am

Updating Original/Top Post for March 1st. Here are the results from last month for prosperity sake:

Estimated Steam Sales as of Feb 1st.

Rank-Sales-Game
  1. 3104644*--Torchlight II
  2. 1400712---Torchlight
  3. 222989----Damned
  4. 203402----The Book of Unwritten Tales
  5. 170130----DUNGEONS - Steam Special Edition
  6. 152552----Zombie Driver
  7. 146525----Running with Rifles
  8. 134597----Dungeons the Dark Lord
  9. 110239----Rebel Galaxy
  10. 103082----Zero Gear
  11. 103961----Kenshi
  12. 93414-----The Book of Unwritten Tales The Critter Chronicles
  13. 75836-----Fate of the World
  14. 72446-----Scrap Mechanic
  15. 65792-----Primal Fears
  16. 60393-----Nimbus
  17. 56501-----Garshasp: The Monster Slayer
  18. 56249-----Catan: Creator's Edition
  19. 52859-----Pacific Storm: Allies
  20. 52859-----Pacific Storm
  21. 48339-----Sacraboar
  22. 45828-----M.U.D. TV
  23. 44196-----Sickbrick
  24. 39802-----APOX
  25. 34403------Garshasp: Temple of the Dragon
  26. 31013-----Dead Hungry Diner
  27. 28753-----Ceville
  28. 27748-----Shadows: Heretic Kingdoms
  29. 26618-----Venetica
  30. 25990-----Salvation Prophecy
  31. 25614-----Victory: The Age of Racing
  32. 24735-----Void Destroyer
  33. 22630*----RaceCraft
  34. 20842-----Kromaia
  35. 19964-----Jack Keane
  36. 16950-----Ankh 2
  37. 15443-----GearCity
  38. 15318-----Vitrum
  39. 13937-----Ankh 3
  40. 11677-----Hotel
  41. 11677-----Masterspace
  42. 11677-----Vector Thrust
  43. 7031------Emergency 2016
  44. 5650------Ankh
  45. 5451------The Body Changer
  46. 5399------I Shall Remain
  47. 3796------Stained
  48. 2260------Enemy
  49. 2009------BOMB
  50. 1256------Iron Roses
  51. 743-------Undercover Missions: Operation Kursk K-141
  52. 0----------Warside--Free to Play, 118,859 downloads
  53. 0----------Earth Eternal--MMO
  54. 0----------Next Life--Not On Steam
  55. 0----------Heavy Hogur--Not On Steam
  56. 0----------Blocks--Not On Steam
  57. 0----------TrackVerse--Not on Steam
  58. 0----------Legends of Pegasus--Was Released on Steam but removed... Interesting wiki
  59. 0----------MotorM4X: Offroad Extreme--Had a steam page but was removed.
  60. 0----------Proun--Why was this game never released on Steam?!!!
  61. 0----------Pulse Shift--Not On Steam
  62. 0----------Homura Combat--Not On Steam
  63. 0----------HitMania!--Not On Steam
  64. 0----------ThunderWheels--DEMO On Steam
  65. 0----------Operation Barbarossa: The Struggle for Russia--Not On Steam
  66. 0----------Symulator Jazdy 2--Not on Steam
  67. 0----------Arthur and the Revenge of Maltazard - Console Game, Not on Steam.
  68. 0----------Supremacy: Four Paths To Power - Not on Steam.
  69. 0----------Alchemy Mysteries: Prague Legends--Too Snobbish to Allow Steam Spy listing. So they get last place.

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Re: Ogre3D Based Game Sales

Post by EricB » Wed Mar 02, 2016 3:19 am

I've updated the March 1st numbers on both the top post and the wiki.

I've switched over to rounding down the sales figures to prevent chart fluctuations dues to statical errors. This is important for the lower selling games as the sales figures can easily jump 20-30% over a two week period of calculations. Since I am round down these figures should paint a much more accurate picture of the minimum sales each game has made on Steam. It should also make much less work for me updating the charts as well make actual movements in the charts much more apparent.

The rounding is as follows:
Eyeballed medium number of units owned in the last 2 weeks.
<1,000 rounded down by the hundreds.
<10,000 rounded down by the thousands.
<100,000 rounded down by the 5 thousands.
<200,000 rounded down by the 10 thousands.
<1,000,000 rounded down by the 25 thousands.
>1,000,000 rounded down by the 100 thousands.

I've also added Free to Play games to the list (if they're on Steam) and have removed the non-steam games from the list on the forums. I will be adding the non-steam games to the wiki page in their own table over the next few days.



So what about the last month?
RaceCraft was released in a closed Early Access by Vae Victis Games. Free copies were gifted to owners of their previous game Victory: The Age of Racing.
Victory was then released as Free to Play. This resulted in a huge 100,000 owner jump for Victory as well a 25,000 unit jump for RaceCraft from the free copies given out.

Scrap Mechanic continues its rapid growth. Earlier in this thread I mentioned that sales growth had started to stagnate. Well I ate my words and it jumped up again. It is starting to slow some though. As of this writing it's sitting 6th on "Top Sellers" Chart on Steam. (From my observations this is based on revenues over 6 hour snapshots.) While this may seem great, they have been sitting in the top 3 since launch. Anyhoo Scrap has doubled its sales over the month and have jumped into 6th!!! Very good chance this may become the 3rd or 2nd best selling Ogre3D game!
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Post by EricB » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:37 pm

March numbers for prosperity sake. Working on the April numbers now.


Estimated Minimum Steam Sales as of March 1st.

Rank-Sales-Game
  1. 3100000*--Torchlight II
  2. 1300000 ---Torchlight
  3. 225000 ----Damned
  4. 200000 ----The Book of Unwritten Tales
  5. 170000 ----DUNGEONS - Steam Special Edition
  6. 150000 -----Scrap Mechanic
  7. 140000 ----Zombie Driver
  8. 140000 ----Running with Rifles
  9. 130000 ----Dungeons the Dark Lord
  10. 130000* ---Victory: The Age of Racing (F2P)
  11. 120000 ----Rebel Galaxy
  12. 110000* ---Warside (F2P)
  13. 100000 ----Zero Gear
  14. 100000 ----Kenshi
  15. 95000 -----The Book of Unwritten Tales The Critter Chronicles
  16. 75000 -----Fate of the World
  17. 65000 -----Primal Fears
  18. 60000 -----Nimbus
  19. 55000 -----Garshasp: The Monster Slayer
  20. 55000 -----Catan: Creator's Edition
  21. 55000 -----Pacific Storm: Allies
  22. 55000 -----Pacific Storm
  23. 50000 -----Sacraboar
  24. 45000 -----M.U.D. TV
  25. 45000 -----Sickbrick
  26. 35000 -----APOX
  27. 35000 ------Garshasp: Temple of the Dragon
  28. 35000 -----Dead Hungry Diner
  29. 30000 -----Ceville
  30. 25000 -----Shadows: Heretic Kingdoms
  31. 25000 -----Venetica
  32. 25000 -----Salvation Prophecy
  33. 25000* ----RaceCraft
  34. 20000 -----Void Destroyer
  35. 20000 -----Jack Keane
  36. 20000 -----Ankh 2
  37. 15000 -----Kromaia
  38. 15000 -----Vitrum
  39. 15000 -----Ankh 3
  40. 10000 -----GearCity
  41. 10000 -----Hotel
  42. 10000 -----Masterspace
  43. 10000 -----Vector Thrust
  44. 8000 ------Emergency 2016
  45. 7000 ------Ankh
  46. 6000 ------The Body Changer
  47. 6000 ------I Shall Remain
  48. 3000 ------Stained
  49. 3000 ------Enemy
  50. 2000 ------BOMB
  51. 900 ------Iron Roses
  52. 900 -------Undercover Missions: Operation Kursk K-141
  53. 0----------Alchemy Mysteries: Prague Legends--Too Snobbish to Allow Steam Spy listing. So they get last place.
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Post by EricB » Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:13 pm

Updated the main post and wiki with April numbers.

Also added a change in position to the forum post.

Some take aways,

Victory Age of Racing Free to play moves it up to 4th place with 225,000 people trying out the game. This means 10x more people have tried the game as F2P over the previous paid for versions. However this move does not equate to more revenues (educated guess), likewise F2P seemed to bring down the review score, from 56% to 43%. Moving to F2P has increased their average concentrate player count by 10000%!!! (from 2.2 to 235) http://steamcharts.com/app/264120

Scrap Mechanic's Growth has slowed, but it still continues to defy expectations with steady sales growth. It moves into 5th place (4th if you don't include F2P games) and should easily take 3rd by the end of the month. The real question is wither it will catch Torchlight steam's numbers before getting out of Early Access.

Finally Vector Thrust had a huge jump in sales at the start of the month. Over doubling their units sold from 10k to 25k and jumping up 10 spots to tied with 29th. I couldn't find a cause after a quick search. Perhaps it was a bundle?


That's it for this month.

Know of any commercial games that are currently/shipped using Ogre3d and are not on the List? Please let us know!
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Post by EricB » Sun May 01, 2016 3:32 pm

Chart update will be delayed by 2-3 days as I have patch coming out for my game on the 3rd and it takes priority.
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Post by EricB » Mon May 02, 2016 7:53 pm

April Sales figures for historical sake:

Rank-Sales-Game-Change In Position
  1. 3100000*--Torchlight II
  2. 1300000 ---Torchlight
  3. 225000 ----Damned
  4. 225000* ---Victory: The Age of Racing (F2P)+6
  5. 200000 -----Scrap Mechanic +1
  6. 190000 ----The Book of Unwritten Tales -2
  7. 170000 ----DUNGEONS - Steam Special Edition -2
  8. 150000 ----Running with Rifles
  9. 140000 ----Zombie Driver -2
  10. 130000 ----Dungeons the Dark Lord -1
  11. 120000 ----Rebel Galaxy
  12. 120000* ---Warside (F2P)
  13. 100000 ----Zero Gear
  14. 100000 ----Kenshi
  15. 95000 -----The Book of Unwritten Tales The Critter Chronicles
  16. 75000 -----Fate of the World
  17. 60000 -----Primal Fears
  18. 55000 -----Nimbus
  19. 55000 -----Garshasp: The Monster Slayer
  20. 55000 -----Catan: Creator's Edition
  21. 55000 -----Pacific Storm: Allies
  22. 55000 -----Pacific Storm
  23. 50000 -----Sacraboar
  24. 45000 -----M.U.D. TV
  25. 45000 -----Sickbrick
  26. 35000 -----APOX
  27. 35000 ------Garshasp: Temple of the Dragon
  28. 30000 -----Dead Hungry Diner
  29. 25000 -----Ceville
  30. 25000 -----Shadows: Heretic Kingdoms
  31. 25000 -----Venetica
  32. 25000 -----Salvation Prophecy
  33. 25000* ----RaceCraft
  34. 25000 -----Vector Thrust +10
  35. 20000 -----Void Destroyer -1
  36. 20000 -----Jack Keane -1
  37. 20000 -----Ankh 2 -1
  38. 15000 -----Kromaia -1
  39. 15000 -----Vitrum -1
  40. 15000 -----Ankh 3 -1
  41. 10000 -----GearCity -1
  42. 10000 -----Hotel -1
  43. 10000 -----Masterspace -1
  44. 8000 ------Emergency 2016
  45. 6000 ------Ankh
  46. 6000 ------The Body Changer
  47. 6000 ------I Shall Remain
  48. 3000 ------Stained
  49. 3000 ------Enemy
  50. 2000 ------BOMB
  51. 800 -------Undercover Missions: Operation Kursk K-141 +1
  52. 500 ------Iron Roses -1
  53. 0----------Alchemy Mysteries: Prague Legends--Too Snobbish to Allow Steam Spy listing. So they get last place.
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Post by EricB » Mon May 02, 2016 8:27 pm

Updated OP with May 1st numbers.

Not much change this month. Both Victory Age of Racing and Scapped Mechanic added a few more users thus pushing them over Damned. As such Damned falls from 3rd most successful Ogre game to 5th (4th if you do not count Free to Play games.)

The rest of the field bounces with margin of error except down toward the bottom of the chart we find that 'The Body Changer' and 'I Shall Remain' picked up a few more in sales. Both did enough to push them clearly ahead of Ankh's stream numbers.


If you know of any commercial games being released to steam, please let us know!

Till next month!
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Post by Kojack » Sun May 22, 2016 4:54 am

It seems that Rebellion's Battlezone 98 Redux is using Ogre. On the steam support page the devs mention sending them ogre.cfg, I've seen some other mentions of ogre and on our help forum a member is modding the game and converted a mesh using the ogre xml converter.
The game came out a month ago and steam spy says it's got 13,764 owners and a user score of 92%.
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Post by EricB » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:53 pm

Kojack wrote:It seems that Rebellion's Battlezone 98 Redux is using Ogre. On the steam support page the devs mention sending them ogre.cfg, I've seen some other mentions of ogre and on our help forum a member is modding the game and converted a mesh using the ogre xml converter.
The game came out a month ago and steam spy says it's got 13,764 owners and a user score of 92%.
Thanks for the heads up, I'll add it to the list!
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Post by EricB » Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:35 pm

Last Month's list for prosperity sake:

Estimated Minimum Steam Sales as of May 1st 2016.

Rank-Sales-Game-Change In Position
  1. 3100000*--Torchlight II
  2. 1300000 ---Torchlight
  3. 250000* ---Victory: The Age of Racing (F2P)+1
  4. 250000 -----Scrap Mechanic+1
  5. 225000 ----Damned-1
  6. 190000 ----The Book of Unwritten Tales
  7. 160000 ----DUNGEONS - Steam Special Edition
  8. 150000 ----Running with Rifles
  9. 150000 ----Zombie Driver
  10. 120000 ----Dungeons the Dark Lord
  11. 120000 ----Rebel Galaxy
  12. 120000* ---Warside (F2P)
  13. 110000 ----Zero Gear
  14. 110000 ----Kenshi
  15. 95000 -----The Book of Unwritten Tales The Critter Chronicles
  16. 75000 -----Fate of the World
  17. 60000 -----Primal Fears
  18. 55000 -----Nimbus
  19. 55000 -----Garshasp: The Monster Slayer
  20. 55000 -----Catan: Creator's Edition
  21. 55000 -----Pacific Storm: Allies
  22. 50000 -----Pacific Storm
  23. 50000 -----Sacraboar
  24. 45000 -----Sickbrick+1
  25. 40000 -----M.U.D. TV-1
  26. 35000 -----APOX
  27. 35000 ------Garshasp: Temple of the Dragon
  28. 30000 -----Dead Hungry Diner
  29. 25000 -----Ceville
  30. 25000 -----Shadows: Heretic Kingdoms
  31. 25000 -----Venetica
  32. 25000 -----Salvation Prophecy
  33. 25000* ----RaceCraft
  34. 25000 -----Vector Thrust
  35. 20000 -----Void Destroyer
  36. 20000 -----Jack Keane
  37. 20000 -----Ankh 2
  38. 15000 -----Kromaia
  39. 15000 -----Vitrum
  40. 15000 -----Ankh 3
  41. 10000 -----GearCity
  42. 10000 -----Hotel
  43. 10000 -----Masterspace
  44. 9000 ------Emergency 2016
  45. 7000 ------The Body Changer+1
  46. 7000 ------I Shall Remain+1
  47. 6000 ------Ankh-1
  48. 3000 ------Stained
  49. 3000 ------Enemy
  50. 2000 ------BOMB
  51. 900 -------Undercover Missions: Operation Kursk K-141
  52. 900 ------Iron Roses
  53. 0----------Alchemy Mysteries: Prague Legends--Too Snobbish to Allow Steam Spy listing. So they get last place.
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Re: Ogre3D Based Game Sales

Post by EricB » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:20 am

The OP chart has been updated to June 1st numbers.

While a few games enjoyed a bump up in sales, there was not much movement on the charts this week. I pushed Scrap Mechanic ahead of Victory! Age of Racing as the former is still enjoying increased sales where as the later has stagnated just barely at the 275k mark.

Outside of that there was no chart movement for games already on our list. Although a number of them were able to bump up in our rounding. Running With Guns is now at 160k units, Emergency 2016 has entered the 10,000 units bracket, and Undercover Missions: Operation Kursk K-141 broke the 1,000 mark!

A new entry has been added thanks to Kojack. Battlezone 98 Redux entered our tied for 41st after a month and a half of sales. The remake of Battlezone has just over 10,000 in sales and should easily break the 15,000 sales mark in the next few months.

That's all for this month. Next month I will update review scores and possibly get around to my non-steam commercial game wiki page. Thanks again for reading. And remember, if you know of any commercial games not on this chart (Steam or otherwise) please feel free to point them out to me so I can add them. Thanks again!
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