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Summer of Code 2007 - call for mentors

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:28 pm
by sinbad
Ok, so it's that time again and I've applied for OGRE to be a part of the Summer of Code 2007. The maximum number of projects we can take on depends on the number of mentors that get involved, so I thought I would put a call out now for people to indicate their interest in being a mentor. I don't see a formal mentor application process up on Google yet, I assume it will follow if / when we get approved as an organisation. But on the assumption we might get approved it would be useful to know approximate mentor numbers.

So what does it take to be a mentor? Primarily time - you'll be responsible for providing guidance and direction to students who might be learning OGRE at the same time as tackling their projects.

Another critical aspect of being a mentor is having very good communication skills. Mentoring is all about communication after all so it's no good if you're a shining genius but can't explain yourself properly ;)

Lastly, experience. In OGRE certainly, but in life and profession generally is quite important, in my opinion. You'll be giving guidance after all, and being good at advising normally comes from having been in the trenches for a while.

If you're interested in participating as a mentor, please reply to this post. I took on 2 projects last year and that was quite tight to organise at times, so it's probably best to assume one project per mentor unless you have a lot of time to give.

If you're considering being a mentor, please make sure you've signed up for a Google account so if / when this all goes ahead, it can all be handled smoothly.

Thanks!

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:40 pm
by Kencho
Count with me. Not sure if I'll have enough time for two, but sure I will be able to mentor one project :)

If you need something more, just ask :)
By the way, do you need my Google account now? If so, I can pm it to you.

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:21 pm
by Lioric
I can take a project

Based on the last SOC, i really suggest this year, we should stablish a "communication framework" where students are requiered to participate in and with the community during the development process (put a 50/50 of code and community involvement)

As part of this, a set of defined guidelines about how they must report their progress and try to promote the early adoption of their code to speed up the dev process

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:50 am
by tuan kuranes
Cannot agree more with Sinbad, 1 project is my maximum.

Agree with Lioric, "Daily report" or/and "Weekly Report" on each Soc Project Thread should be sort of mandatory, as well as release early, release often. In Soc Project submission we could add a link to an Ogre Page Describing that "Communication Framework".

Student application evaluation and sorting did also take a lot of time, so if we could find a way to filter.... maybe a "Complexity estimation" (C++ level, Graphic Level, etc...), "Required Knowledge" (CVS, ...) or something approaching could be part of project description.

That said, I do apply.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:13 am
by xavier
Same as last year -- interested. Do you have a tentative project list in mind?

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:41 am
by steven
xavier wrote:Same as last year -- interested. Do you have a tentative project list in mind?
Sinbad mentionned: http://www.ogre3d.org/wiki/index.php/HelpRequested
in this thread: Google Summer of Code 2007. Btw this thread contains also several projects ideas.

Re: Summer of Code 2007 - call for mentors

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:02 am
by reimpell
sinbad wrote:so I thought I would put a call out now for people to indicate their interest in being a mentor.
I'm interested in being a mentor. It was so much fun last year, and I have use for another t-shirt :wink:.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:06 am
by Kencho
tuan kuranes wrote:Agree with Lioric, "Daily report" or/and "Weekly Report" on each Soc Project Thread should be sort of mandatory, as well as release early, release often. In Soc Project submission we could add a link to an Ogre Page Describing that "Communication Framework".

Student application evaluation and sorting did also take a lot of time, so if we could find a way to filter.... maybe a "Complexity estimation" (C++ level, Graphic Level, etc...), "Required Knowledge" (CVS, ...) or something approaching could be part of project description.
Weekly report the more often, please. Maybe people can't work on it everyday, and even if they do, writing a report every day seems excessive in my opinion.

I agree with the rest of the post :)

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:38 pm
by haffax
I'd be willing to mentor one project too.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:30 pm
by syedhs
Looks like there are already six people (incl. Sinbad) offering to be the mentors :) Maybe we can have more projects this year compared to last year?

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:10 pm
by haffax
The number of mentors wasn't the problem last year. We've had more available mentors than project applications and projects we had have liked to be implemented. Google set a threshold on the number of projects allowed. Each mentoring organisation only got a percentage (+/- some voodoo value) of applications granted.

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:33 am
by sinbad
Yes, I agree that it would be good to be very clear on the amount of community involvement expected this time.

I do plan to update the HelpRequested page and will be lifting some things from that thread. This week has been a bit hectic for me but I will definitely update it if we get accepted. I think there's enough there right now to show Google that there are plenty of things to be working on, plus anything students come up with.

Thanks for stepping up to the plate guys :) Here's hoping we get approved this year.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:10 am
by Tenttu
Ogre was approved for this years SoC.

http://code.google.com/soc/

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:25 am
by Kencho
Dang, faster than me! :P

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:59 am
by syedhs
Hahahaha 15 minutes late. But I believe you can do it better next year :wink:

It is a good news (expected anyway), so lets keep the ball rolling.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:04 pm
by sinbad
Yep, just checked my GMail account just now. :)

I'm refreshing the Ideas list now. Mentors, please sign up with your Google accounts at http://code.google.com/soc/mentor_step1.html

I'll do a news posting and come back with some procedural stuff later on today.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:23 pm
by Kencho
Done.

Do we mentors need to send any tax forms? I know students must, and probably you (as Ogre) as well, but what about us? :?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:52 pm
by haffax
Done too.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:52 pm
by sinbad
Nope, I have to sort out all the tax stuff as org admin since mentor payments come through me (at least that's what happened last year). What fun!

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:55 pm
by sinbad
You're not showing up on my mentor list yet, did you check the box next to 'OGRE' in the organisations section (at the bottom of 'My Profile')

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:56 pm
by reimpell
sinbad wrote:Mentors, please sign up with your Google accounts
Done.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:19 pm
by Kencho
sinbad wrote:You're not showing up on my mentor list yet, did you check the box next to 'OGRE' in the organisations section (at the bottom of 'My Profile')
Yep
OGRE Your Mentoring Acceptance is Pending

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:24 pm
by sinbad
Hmm, maybe Google have to accept your application first. I'll give it until they're awake in California for a while ;)