[Please vote] Knowledge, Usage and Future of Ogre's RTSS

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Are you aware of Ogre's RTSS and do you use it in your projects? If not, shy?

I use / have used it.
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15%
I know how to use Ogre's RTSS, but haven't utilized it so far because ...
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9%
I am aware of Ogre's RTSS, but don't know how to use it.
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54%
Never heard of Ogre's RTSS so far.
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22%
 
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Re: [Please vote] Knowledge, Usage and Future of Ogre's RTSS

Post by syedhs » Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:34 am

Having shaders pregenerated for certain number of lights may not for many cases as number of light will always change - unless if there is only one directional light (sun). Suppose there is a scene script which introduces light on demand to the scene, then shaders will still need to be generated and compiled.
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Re: [Please vote] Knowledge, Usage and Future of Ogre's RTSS

Post by scratchyrice » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:22 pm

I know how to use Ogre's RTSS, but haven't utilized it so far because ...

Well... Actually I did utilize it a while back but found it to be far to cumbersome. It seems like it would be a great system for rapid prototyping, but its just to "over-weight" for making purpose build game engines.

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Re: [Please vote] Knowledge, Usage and Future of Ogre's RTSS

Post by Trioxin » Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:33 pm

I am aware of Ogre's RTSS, but don't know how to use it because...

I've seen no inclination to do so.
Generally when I want a shader I just write it myself, as it'll do something specific. I also like to know exactly what my shaders are doing as much as possible to ensure they aren't overburdened with unnecessary features.

As such, I'm not entirely sure what the RTSS is, what it does, or what's available within it. Certainly if there's a specific technique I go looking for, the RTSS never crops up in any shader tutorials or snippets for what I need.
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Re: [Please vote] Knowledge, Usage and Future of Ogre's RTSS

Post by JordanWeber » Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:15 am

I have used it (very very roughly) but don't understand it too well.
It looks useful, but can't wrap my head around it to easily implement/mix the shaders I need.

I would love to see it improved and easier to use, however cannot provide any recommendations how exactly.
BTW, this post is almost a year old, any updates on what will happen with RTSS in the future? :)
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Re: [Please vote] Knowledge, Usage and Future of Ogre's RTSS

Post by phobossion » Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:44 pm

I know how to use it (at least in theory) but I am not using it because...

I have my own material editor/system in place based on the uber-shader technology. I looked at it in the beginning but found it trying to be too general, making it cumbersome for streamlined rendering pipelines such as the mine. Didn't use it so I cannot tell if it does get better when you actually get used to it.
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Re: [Please vote] Knowledge, Usage and Future of Ogre's RTSS

Post by EnergyIQ » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:32 pm

Ran the demo and played with the settings for 5 mins, voted option b) because my game is in pre-production, I expect I would use it because it could ease some workload issues with lighting and materials, at least until I have a complete prototype/alpha or playable demo of the game.
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Re: [Please vote] Knowledge, Usage and Future of Ogre's RTSS

Post by SufferinPup » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:31 pm

The RTSS is basically a requirement on iOS/Android because GLES2 doesn't support fixed function+shaders together. If there was no RTSS then you'd have to manually write shaders for every single thing in your game! It is much nicer to be able to use Ogre's material system for most things and only write custom shaders as required.
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Re: [Please vote] Knowledge, Usage and Future of Ogre's RTSS

Post by dspnerd » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:22 pm

Quoth Sufferinpup: The RTSS is basically a requirement on iOS/Android because GLES2 doesn't support fixed function+shaders together. If there was no RTSS then you'd have to manually write shaders for every single thing in your game! It is much nicer to be able to use Ogre's material system for most things and only write custom shaders as required

As long as there are a good number of shaders available, that's all I care about.
Also, +1, it's about time for a pure shader based engine. G3D is having a similar problem where it's GUI system can't be used.

Why consider getting rid of shaders. I vote get rid of fixed function and move to an entirely shader based approach. The engine would be a lot more efficient. (I have this engine, it IS more efficient... I just don't have the finished one. XD)
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