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by Novator » Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:17 am
I was looking at an older post asking for more bsp support
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jikbar wrote:Ogre should expose more functionality from Quake3 levels. it would be really nice to attach a Quake3 level to a scene node so that it can be rotated, scaled, etc (you can see how this might come in useful for flipping Z and Y without changing the camera) . Also, the Quake3 level class should include a parser to create a list of
all entities in the map so that things like jump pads can be loaded into a game without an extra Entities file. right now, the only entity data i can get from a map is start positions, which isnt very useful since the map is loaded internally through setWorldGeometry() and it cant be accessed without loading the map twice.
if anyone wants, i could make the modifications since this is already a major issue with my project (it might take a while since im still learning how to use Ogre, but 'awhile' for me is a much shorter amount of time than it is for others

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sinbad wrote:Since Carmack has said that Q3A will be GPL'ed by the end of the year, it may be that the level tools will be GPL'ed too, in which case the Q3A format will suddenly become a whole lot more useful.
Is there any news on this? Did Q3A end up get GPL'ed? If so maybe you could work on this now.

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by monster » Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:56 am
Did Q3A end up get GPL'ed? If so maybe you could work on this now.
Err, rather than you just waiting for someone else to do something, why don't you have a search around the internet yourself to see whether or not the answer to your question is true or false.
Then, if the Q3A format
has been GPL'd maybe
you could work on this?
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by IFASS » Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:58 am
I recommend you to look into this:
www.zalsoft.com
We (openfrag) have contacted the coder behind it and he's gonna cooperate with us in a few months to make it work with openfrag (as so with OGRE).
A few changes has to be made to the editor and compiler before it can work completly with OGRE.
I'll keep you guys updated on this (imo) great stuff.
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And yes, this means OpenFrag is gonna support 2 seperate map formats.
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by Novator » Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:22 am
monster wrote:Did Q3A end up get GPL'ed? If so maybe you could work on this now.
Err, rather than you just waiting for someone else to do something, why don't you have a search around the internet yourself to see whether or not the answer to your question is true or false.
Then, if the Q3A format
has been GPL'd maybe
you could work on this?
This is the feature request forum isn't it? I just was making a suggestion is all...
[edit] sorry IFASS, forgot to say something about your post... I like that program it'll be extremely useful to me

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by :wumpus: » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:09 am
The Ogre team isn't much interested in the BSP format as used by Quake for various reasons, one being it's really an antiquity and not that efficient for the batch sizes modern hardware like. (too find out more search the forums a bit)
Of course, contributions to the BSP plugin are welcome, but we won't work on it ourself.
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by jacmoe » Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:46 pm
IFASS wrote:We (openfrag) have contacted the coder behind Getic and he's gonna cooperate with us in a few months to make it work with openfrag (as so with OGRE).
A few changes has to be made to the editor and compiler before it can work completly with OGRE.
I'll keep you guys updated on this (imo) great stuff.
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And yes, this means OpenFrag is gonna support 2 seperate map formats.
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This is excellent news!
Hope the Getic exporter will be generic enough to work with 'vanilla' Ogre.
This could be what a lot of Ogre users are waiting for: an easy way of creating Ogre levels.

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by czzplnm » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:35 pm
Never happened? o-o
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by jacmoe » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:29 pm
OpenFrag is history.
The last commit in their repository is years ago..
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by Serpentine » Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:13 pm
Tho not exactly what you're looking for, it might be of help to have a look over at
BZN BSP Renderer
He does mention that the map format is slightly different from Q3A's default, but it seems simple enough to make the changes needed, however there's most likely a lot of other stuff you could remove if you just wanted to use it for BSP handling alone, that might be a bit of work.
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