ROAM Planet rendering

[DavlexDesign]

G'day guys,

CLOUDS AGAIN !!, Here's what they look like at the moment from the ground ....

CloudsVolume08.jpg

The clouds are lit mainly by density lighting, but they do go dark at night, and as the sun goes higher in the sky, the rim lighting stays but the thicker stuff does darken properly.

Alex

[UT2007]

Hi,

Your webpage has been suspended, "Error loading page. Please contact the support team. " and link redirect to "http://www.titaniumarts.com.au/cgi-sys/suspendedpage...."

I am sure community can contribute somehow, could you please share the codes please ? Or do you plan it to be a christmas gift

Regards

it tooks a long for the message to be validated and meanwhile people went discussing something, so i requote the above comment because its important for me to have an anwser.

[palaslet]

CLOUDS AGAIN !!

Those clouds are actually quite photo realistic!

But... They are so realistic that the texture on the planet looks very artificial in comparison. That of course is a good thing in this case

Great work.

[Sovaka]

We were aware of this a day ago and we were pushing our new site online at the time and had hoped to have it up in time...

But it is up now!

Aussie Genesis

Lots of new information to digest methinks

[DavlexDesign]

G'day guys,

They are so realistic that the texture on the planet looks very artificial in comparison

Thank's mate, I still have a long way to go on these, I have to do some serious culling for these to work nicely in my eyes, as you can see in that screen shot, I've dipped below 200 fps, that's not good for me, so I will fix that shortly. I have a couple of tricks I'm going to try, to see if I can cheapen this effect a whole lot, while keeping the visuals looking nice, if I can't, then into the scrap heap they go, and I have to rethink my strategy for them. The problem I think is that my clouds are way too thick, some are up to 6km high, maybe that's the problem. I tell you what though, they have opened up a new way of me populating the terrain with grass and distant forest media though.

anyway, we have a new site up and running now (thanks to sovaka), link is at the bottom of the signatures, or in sovaka's last post.

Alex

[UT2007]

We were aware of this a day ago and we were pushing our new site online at the time and had hoped to have it up in time...

But it is up now!

Aussie Genesis

Lots of new information to digest methinks

whaou ! very nice and good website ! congratulation ..... however still no source download

Could you please make the current version of source downloadable ? or you plan to put it at december as christmas gift ?

[UT2007]

We were aware of this a day ago and we were pushing our new site online at the time and had hoped to have it up in time...

But it is up now!

Aussie Genesis

Lots of new information to digest methinks

whaou ! very nice and good website ! congratulation ..... however still no source download

Could you please make the current version of source downloadable ? or you plan to put it at december as christmas gift ?

I come to see right now what is your objective in the license page, i am very happy indeed because paying for your hard work will encourage you to go further. Just give affordable price for all kits :
Galaxy Engine
Planetary Engine
Terrain Engine
Flora Engine
Fauna Engine
Liquid Engine

I cant wait to pay for that release ! please give me an idea of when you will make it available ?

[Sovaka]

We have no idea of pricing yet... But it will be fair and not be expensive for the Indie Dev

For the bigger houses tho? They can afford to pay a bit extra

We will also have bundles too... The more you get, the cheaper overall instead of buying individually as you need.
This will will hopefully solve two things;
#1 - Prevent the system from breaking as much with other 3rd party engines that aren't needed.
#2 - Sell the fact that it is a Galaxy engine... There is no downside in getting all them together and getting right into the main development cycle.

With our eventual tool set, you can still have box levels like Half Life 2, Call of Duty etc with our engine set. You just set a parameter for the square KM you want to take advantage of and the engine will single out that page and then use the surrounding pages as distant backdrop terrain.

There is a lot for us to discuss and work out before we can make any solid statements.
We are aiming to be the first open game dev out there when it comes to development process, finances and all that garb.
As we learn, you learn

[UT2007]

We have no idea of pricing yet... But it will be fair and not be expensive for the Indie Dev

For the bigger houses tho? They can afford to pay a bit extra

We will also have bundles too... The more you get, the cheaper overall instead of buying individually as you need.
This will will hopefully solve two things;
#1 - Prevent the system from breaking as much with other 3rd party engines that aren't needed.
#2 - Sell the fact that it is a Galaxy engine... There is no downside in getting all them together and getting right into the main development cycle.

With our eventual tool set, you can still have box levels like Half Life 2, Call of Duty etc with our engine set. You just set a parameter for the square KM you want to take advantage of and the engine will single out that page and then use the surrounding pages as distant backdrop terrain.

There is a lot for us to discuss and work out before we can make any solid statements.
We are aiming to be the first open game dev out there when it comes to development process, finances and all that garb.
As we learn, you learn

hi,

i can see that my previous account(UT2007) is not working on the new website, i have to sign up again .... hope this will not forbid me to give help in the closed beta.

I see that a release is planed on jun 2011, wether is open or closed i really wish to be part of (who knows, it could convice me more to give a donation).

The way this project goes is realy near to what i think, so instead of reinvent the wheel my side i prefer to start from here and even help the overall engine to have some more.

Waiting for the jun-2011 release as said in the license page of your website....

Thanks and regards

[James Proctor]

So based on the latest discussion about licensing I am guessing you guys aren't planning on offering any part of it for free any more like you guys had been talking about?

[DavlexDesign]

G'day guys,

So based on the latest discussion about licensing I am guessing you guys aren't planning on offering any part of it for free any more like you guys had been talking about?

That's not entirely correct (your guess), like I stated before, the terrain side of the engine mesh generation will be OPEN SOURCE, there is no way I could ask for money for that as it is based off of the ROAM algorithm, and that's been out in the waves for ages, albeit a slightly modified version, but still, it is based off of something that is free and already out there. As for some of the other nice bits, well, put it this way, it won't be a deal breaker for the indie community, we will support the indies right to the end, how else are we gonna get innovation into the gaming industry ?

The whole idea for this thing is to get something out there that will hopefully give people the freedom to use their imagination, and have fun creating stuff that doesn't need a super computer to drive it, and 6 - 12 gigabytes to install it.

Don't loose heart, you will get your hands dirty with this thing in the end. Just be a little patient with us, we have allot to do still, to make this all happen.

Alex

[Sovaka]

hi,

i can see that my previous account(UT2007) is not working on the new website, i have to sign up again .... hope this will not forbid me to give help in the closed beta.

I see that a release is planed on jun 2011, wether is open or closed i really wish to be part of (who knows, it could convice me more to give a donation).

The way this project goes is realy near to what i think, so instead of reinvent the wheel my side i prefer to start from here and even help the overall engine to have some more.

Waiting for the jun-2011 release as said in the license page of your website....

Thanks and regards

In regards to peoples accounts, unfortunately the new DB wasn't allowing me to bring the users across due to new security updates or some crap.
Having signed up previously on Titanium Arts or now, won't effect your standing of having access to our game Beta's.

Thanks for pointing out the typo! I have fixed that up now.

[DavlexDesign]

G'day guys,

Just a progress shot ....

CloudsVolume09.jpg

CloudsVolume10.jpg

The frame rate is creeping back up to something I feel is reasonable now, but still some work to go.

Alex

[DavlexDesign]

G'day guys,

Still dicking around with these things ....

CloudsVolume11.jpg

The fps are still creeping up to something more respectable and usable.

Alex

[DavlexDesign]

G'day AGAIN !!!,

This time looking from low orbit, trying to get a bit more detail into them from above ....

CloudsVolume12.jpg

They are starting to take shape, but I have to work on my optimization from space now, the frame hit is way too much for my liking.

Alex

[aguru]

!!!

[LordBaal]

Awesome work is awesome!

I'm really happy that you are going for a commercial, yet sensible and reasonable approach. This does not only guarantee a space for this awesome work on the gaming industry, but also will give you incentives to keep working on it and develop it further.

This are exciting times to be alive and be a gamer. The freedom of creation at our fingertips. When madness became awesome!

As I say previously , this marvelous creation will have a huge impact on gaming once is out! I'm specially fascinated now with the fauna engine... are you planing to create also animals procedurally?

The clouds are coming up really nice. Last night I was wondering how where you working on them... I mean, if they hold volume with many layers inside or if they just where groups of empty objects floating around or neither case....

Oh, the name is both funny and original. It's one those names that are funny, but are a little less funny each time you say until you don't giggle. Like the B-Sharps... hehehe...

Keep up the good work!

[Zonder]

Yes that is defiantly getting there how is the fly through?

Any chance of a video its defiantly worth one

I wouldn't expect animals to be part of the engine that is really a game asset

[LordBaal]

Maybe I didn't choose my words carefully. I meant about having an procedural animal generator.

I asked because I saw a list and mistakenly believed Sovaka wrote it, but now I see it was UT2007, so my mistake!

However having one alongside the flora generation would be awesome, yet really hard to accomplish. Animals are harder to create, animate and place according it's characteristics. Not that its impossible but it's hard. Look at spore, yes they have this huge amount of creatures created and animated but their approach to food chains and others aspects of biology is simplistic and/or cartoonish at best.

[Sovaka]

No UT2007 got the list from our site.

We do plan on making a fauna engine... But a fauna engine more in the regards of behaviors, reproduction cycles, migrations etc.
We have talked about making a procedural animal generator based off of a set of rules and predefined mesh pieces.
Then using an IK solver to figure out its movement type and behavior.
It's quite the complicated part of the project and we haven't really dug anywhere deep enough to find out if it is something we can do.
Unless we go the route of Spore and allow the player to create their own animal species... Maybe that can be a tech tree? Biogenic Splicing?

Either way, that is something for down the road tho.

.: EDIT TO ADD :.
I really didn't want to remake Spore even though I know they made Spore incorrectly

Alex and I were talking about the scale of the engine the other day... Like we do so often... And we are just stunned at the scale of this beast.
Once it is put together and the authoring tools are in place... This game will take on a life of its own.
Like the engine name, it will be HUGE.

*fingers crossed*

[UT2007]

Hi Sir,

Can i ask you one thing ? one did you managed for the physics ? does people (pawn, vehicle, objects etc) already able to work and react with any physics or you haven't yet done anything for the physics.

Very curious to know this.....

Thanks and regards

[azer89]

Hi, i want to ask if your system can implement RaySceneQuery. Right now i am developing planet rendering based on JohnJ GalaxyEngine and i need to implement RaySceneQuery to obtain current height at a point in planet surface. The planet uses MovableObject and somehow i can't get any result on my RaySceneQuery.

[LordBaal]

Where is the list?? I searched your site and can't find it...

[UT2007]

Where is the list?? I searched your site and can't find it...

on main home page of the website you click on "Aussie Genesis goes HUGE" and you will be directed there .... (license detail page)

http://www.aussiegenesis.com/index.php? ... Itemid=101

[UT2007]

Hi Sir,

Can i ask you one thing ? one did you managed for the physics ? does people (pawn, vehicle, objects etc) already able to work and react with any physics or you haven't yet done anything for the physics.

Very curious to know this.....

Thanks and regards

DavlexDesign, Sovaka, anybody can answer please ?