DotSceneManager and HEAD Ogre working together?

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NoBrain2k
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DotSceneManager and HEAD Ogre working together?

Post by NoBrain2k »

hello, quick question. Can anyone tell my if the current version of DotSceneManager is actually working with the current HEAD version of ogre as i am having endless problems trying to build the plugin and (hence) the scene viewer!?!

Thanks in advance :)

EDIT:
tell you what, here's the errors im getting in case someone can spot easily what i'm doing wrong :wink:

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SceneOctreeRenderable.cpp
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctreeRenderable.h(162) : error C2555: 'SceneOctreeRenderable::getMaterial': overriding virtual function return type differs and is not covariant from 'Ogre::Renderable::getMaterial'
        c:\Ogre\ogrenew\OgreMain\include\OgreRenderable.h(62) : see declaration of 'Ogre::Renderable::getMaterial'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\OgreMain\include\OgreTexture.h(258) : fatal error C1903: unable to recover from previous error(s); stopping compilation
DotSceneResource.cpp
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\DotSceneResource.cpp(1) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'OgreDataChunk.h': No such file or directory
SceneOctree.cpp
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctreeRenderable.h(162) : error C2555: 'SceneOctreeRenderable::getMaterial': overriding virtual function return type differs and is not covariant from 'Ogre::Renderable::getMaterial'
        c:\Ogre\ogrenew\OgreMain\include\OgreRenderable.h(62) : see declaration of 'Ogre::Renderable::getMaterial'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctree.h(75) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'chunk'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctree.h(75) : error C2501: 'SceneOctree::DataChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctree.h(75) : error C2501: 'SceneOctree::chunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneManager.h(87) : error C2065: 'SDDataChunk' : undeclared identifier
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneManager.h(87) : error C2955: 'std::list' : use of class template requires template argument list
        c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\Vc7\include\list(966) : see declaration of 'std::list'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneManager.h(87) : error C2955: 'std::list' : use of class template requires template argument list
        c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\Vc7\include\list(966) : see declaration of 'std::list'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(19) : error C2143: syntax error : missing ';' before '&'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(19) : error C2501: 'Ogre::SceneResource::DataChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(19) : error C2501: 'Ogre::SceneResource::getChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(19) : warning C4183: 'getChunk': missing return type; assumed to be a member function returning 'int'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(23) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'mChunk'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(23) : error C2501: 'Ogre::SceneResource::DataChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(23) : error C2501: 'Ogre::SceneResource::mChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneOctree.cpp(56) : warning C4800: 'int' : forcing value to bool 'true' or 'false' (performance warning)
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneOctree.cpp(82) : error C2065: 'chunk' : undeclared identifier
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneOctree.cpp(83) : error C2228: left of '.getSize' must have class/struct/union type
        type is ''unknown-type''
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneOctree.cpp(83) : error C3861: 'chunk': identifier not found, even with argument-dependent lookup
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneOctree.cpp(113) : error C2664: 'void Ogre::ResourceManager::unload(const Ogre::String &)' : cannot convert parameter 1 from 'Ogre::SceneResource *' to 'const Ogre::String &'
        Reason: cannot convert from 'Ogre::SceneResource *' to 'const Ogre::String'
        No constructor could take the source type, or constructor overload resolution was ambiguous
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneOctree.cpp(198) : error C2440: 'initializing' : cannot convert from 'int' to 'Ogre::HardwareVertexBufferSharedPtr'
        Constructor for class 'Ogre::HardwareVertexBufferSharedPtr' is declared 'explicit'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneOctree.cpp(198) : error C2440: 'initializing' : cannot convert from 'int' to 'Ogre::HardwareVertexBufferSharedPtr'
        Constructor for class 'Ogre::HardwareVertexBufferSharedPtr' is declared 'explicit'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneOctree.cpp(198) : error C2440: 'initializing' : cannot convert from 'int' to 'Ogre::HardwareVertexBufferSharedPtr'
        Constructor for class 'Ogre::HardwareVertexBufferSharedPtr' is declared 'explicit'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneOctree.cpp(198) : error C2440: 'initializing' : cannot convert from 'int' to 'Ogre::HardwareVertexBufferSharedPtr'
        Constructor for class 'Ogre::HardwareVertexBufferSharedPtr' is declared 'explicit'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneOctree.cpp(271) : error C2228: left of '.getPtr' must have class/struct/union type
        type is ''unknown-type''
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneOctree.cpp(271) : error C3861: 'chunk': identifier not found, even with argument-dependent lookup
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneOctree.cpp(411) : error C2039: 'getMaterial' : is not a member of 'Ogre::SceneManager'
        c:\Ogre\ogrenew\OgreMain\include\OgreSceneManager.h(77) : see declaration of 'Ogre::SceneManager'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneOctree.cpp(412) : error C2039: 'getMaterial' : is not a member of 'Ogre::SceneManager'
        c:\Ogre\ogrenew\OgreMain\include\OgreSceneManager.h(77) : see declaration of 'Ogre::SceneManager'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneOctree.cpp(468) : error C2228: left of '.getPtr' must have class/struct/union type
        type is ''unknown-type''
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneOctree.cpp(468) : error C3861: 'chunk': identifier not found, even with argument-dependent lookup
SceneMain.cpp
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctreeRenderable.h(162) : error C2555: 'SceneOctreeRenderable::getMaterial': overriding virtual function return type differs and is not covariant from 'Ogre::Renderable::getMaterial'
        c:\Ogre\ogrenew\OgreMain\include\OgreRenderable.h(62) : see declaration of 'Ogre::Renderable::getMaterial'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctree.h(75) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'chunk'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctree.h(75) : error C2501: 'SceneOctree::DataChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctree.h(75) : error C2501: 'SceneOctree::chunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneManager.h(87) : error C2065: 'SDDataChunk' : undeclared identifier
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneManager.h(87) : error C2955: 'std::list' : use of class template requires template argument list
        c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\Vc7\include\list(966) : see declaration of 'std::list'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneManager.h(87) : error C2955: 'std::list' : use of class template requires template argument list
        c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\Vc7\include\list(966) : see declaration of 'std::list'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(19) : error C2143: syntax error : missing ';' before '&'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(19) : error C2501: 'Ogre::SceneResource::DataChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(19) : error C2501: 'Ogre::SceneResource::getChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(19) : warning C4183: 'getChunk': missing return type; assumed to be a member function returning 'int'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(23) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'mChunk'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(23) : error C2501: 'Ogre::SceneResource::DataChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(23) : error C2501: 'Ogre::SceneResource::mChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneMain.cpp(97) : error C2065: 'DataChunk' : undeclared identifier
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneMain.cpp(97) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'chunk'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneMain.cpp(97) : error C2065: 'chunk' : undeclared identifier
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneMain.cpp(98) : error C2228: left of '.getPtr' must have class/struct/union type
        type is ''unknown-type''
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneMain.cpp(98) : error C3861: 'chunk': identifier not found, even with argument-dependent lookup
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\SceneMain.cpp(100) : error C2664: 'void Ogre::ResourceManager::unload(const Ogre::String &)' : cannot convert parameter 1 from 'Ogre::SceneResource *' to 'const Ogre::String &'
        Reason: cannot convert from 'Ogre::SceneResource *' to 'const Ogre::String'
        No constructor could take the source type, or constructor overload resolution was ambiguous
DotSceneResourceManager.cpp
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctreeRenderable.h(162) : error C2555: 'SceneOctreeRenderable::getMaterial': overriding virtual function return type differs and is not covariant from 'Ogre::Renderable::getMaterial'
        c:\Ogre\ogrenew\OgreMain\include\OgreRenderable.h(62) : see declaration of 'Ogre::Renderable::getMaterial'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctree.h(75) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'chunk'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctree.h(75) : error C2501: 'SceneOctree::DataChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctree.h(75) : error C2501: 'SceneOctree::chunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneManager.h(87) : error C2065: 'SDDataChunk' : undeclared identifier
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneManager.h(87) : error C2955: 'std::list' : use of class template requires template argument list
        c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\Vc7\include\list(966) : see declaration of 'std::list'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneManager.h(87) : error C2955: 'std::list' : use of class template requires template argument list
        c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\Vc7\include\list(966) : see declaration of 'std::list'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(19) : error C2143: syntax error : missing ';' before '&'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(19) : error C2501: 'Ogre::SceneResource::DataChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(19) : error C2501: 'Ogre::SceneResource::getChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(19) : warning C4183: 'getChunk': missing return type; assumed to be a member function returning 'int'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(23) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'mChunk'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(23) : error C2501: 'Ogre::SceneResource::DataChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(23) : error C2501: 'Ogre::SceneResource::mChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\DotSceneResourceManager.cpp(50) : error C2664: 'Ogre::ResourceManager::load' : cannot convert parameter 1 from 'Ogre::SceneResource *' to 'const Ogre::String &'
        Reason: cannot convert from 'Ogre::SceneResource *' to 'const Ogre::String'
        No constructor could take the source type, or constructor overload resolution was ambiguous
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\DotSceneResourceManager.cpp(57) : error C2259: 'Ogre::SceneResource' : cannot instantiate abstract class
        due to following members:
        'void Ogre::Resource::loadImpl(void)' : pure virtual function was not defined
        c:\Ogre\ogrenew\OgreMain\include\OgreResource.h(99) : see declaration of 'Ogre::Resource::loadImpl'
        'void Ogre::Resource::unloadImpl(void)' : pure virtual function was not defined
        c:\Ogre\ogrenew\OgreMain\include\OgreResource.h(103) : see declaration of 'Ogre::Resource::unloadImpl'
        'size_t Ogre::Resource::calculateSize(void) const' : pure virtual function was not defined
        c:\Ogre\ogrenew\OgreMain\include\OgreResource.h(105) : see declaration of 'Ogre::Resource::calculateSize'
DotSceneManagerDLL.cpp
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctreeRenderable.h(162) : error C2555: 'SceneOctreeRenderable::getMaterial': overriding virtual function return type differs and is not covariant from 'Ogre::Renderable::getMaterial'
        c:\Ogre\ogrenew\OgreMain\include\OgreRenderable.h(62) : see declaration of 'Ogre::Renderable::getMaterial'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctree.h(75) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'chunk'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctree.h(75) : error C2501: 'SceneOctree::DataChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctree.h(75) : error C2501: 'SceneOctree::chunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneManager.h(87) : error C2065: 'SDDataChunk' : undeclared identifier
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneManager.h(87) : error C2955: 'std::list' : use of class template requires template argument list
        c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\Vc7\include\list(966) : see declaration of 'std::list'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneManager.h(87) : error C2955: 'std::list' : use of class template requires template argument list
        c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\Vc7\include\list(966) : see declaration of 'std::list'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(19) : error C2143: syntax error : missing ';' before '&'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(19) : error C2501: 'Ogre::SceneResource::DataChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(19) : error C2501: 'Ogre::SceneResource::getChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(19) : warning C4183: 'getChunk': missing return type; assumed to be a member function returning 'int'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(23) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'mChunk'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(23) : error C2501: 'Ogre::SceneResource::DataChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneResource.h(23) : error C2501: 'Ogre::SceneResource::mChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\DotSceneManagerDLL.cpp(14) : error C2259: 'Ogre::SceneResourceManager' : cannot instantiate abstract class
        due to following members:
        'Ogre::Resource *Ogre::ResourceManager::createImpl(const Ogre::String &,Ogre::ResourceHandle,const Ogre::String &,bool,Ogre::ManualResourceLoader *,const Ogre::NameValuePairList *)' : pure virtual function was not defined
        c:\Ogre\ogrenew\OgreMain\include\OgreResourceManager.h(327) : see declaration of 'Ogre::ResourceManager::createImpl'
DotSceneManager.cpp
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctreeRenderable.h(162) : error C2555: 'SceneOctreeRenderable::getMaterial': overriding virtual function return type differs and is not covariant from 'Ogre::Renderable::getMaterial'
        c:\Ogre\ogrenew\OgreMain\include\OgreRenderable.h(62) : see declaration of 'Ogre::Renderable::getMaterial'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctree.h(75) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'chunk'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctree.h(75) : error C2501: 'SceneOctree::DataChunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\SceneOctree.h(75) : error C2501: 'SceneOctree::chunk' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneManager.h(87) : error C2065: 'SDDataChunk' : undeclared identifier
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneManager.h(87) : error C2955: 'std::list' : use of class template requires template argument list
        c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\Vc7\include\list(966) : see declaration of 'std::list'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\include\DotSceneManager.h(87) : error C2955: 'std::list' : use of class template requires template argument list
        c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\Vc7\include\list(966) : see declaration of 'std::list'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\DotSceneManager.cpp(157) : error C3861: 'SDDataChunk': identifier not found, even with argument-dependent lookup
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\DotSceneManager.cpp(157) : error C2955: 'std::list' : use of class template requires template argument list
        c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\Vc7\include\list(966) : see declaration of 'std::list'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\DotSceneManager.cpp(157) : error C2955: 'std::list' : use of class template requires template argument list
        c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\Vc7\include\list(966) : see declaration of 'std::list'
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\DotSceneManager.cpp(159) : error C2664: 'Ogre::SceneManager::getOptionValues' : cannot convert parameter 2 from 'std::list' to 'Ogre::StringVector &'
        A reference that is not to 'const' cannot be bound to a non-lvalue
c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\src\DotSceneManager.cpp(164) : error C2664: 'Ogre::SceneManager::getOptionKeys' : cannot convert parameter 1 from 'std::list<_Ty>' to 'Ogre::StringVector &'
        with
        [
            _Ty=Ogre::String
        ]
        A reference that is not to 'const' cannot be bound to a non-lvalue
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Build log was saved at "file://c:\Ogre\ogrenew\PlugIns\DotSceneManager\obj\Debug\BuildLog.htm"
Plugin_DotSceneManager - 90 error(s), 5 warning(s)
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pjcast
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Post by pjcast »

Looking at the error messages.. I would say that it is definately not updated for cvshead use at the moment.

You have to remember that ogreaddons is completely seperate from the main Ogre development and are community driven projects. Hence, they are not always in sync with cvs.

A few choices: wait until someone updates it, modify it yourself (I did this this to my CEGUI to make it compatible), or use .15 branch for now.
Have a question about Input? Video? WGE? Come on over... http://www.wreckedgames.com/forum/
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xzoowy
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Post by xzoowy »

There is a patch available for this addon for Ogre version 0.15.x :
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.ph ... tid=302997
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NoBrain2k
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Post by NoBrain2k »

ok, thanks both, i'll go back to .15 for a bit then.. probably... or i might just go to bed :P

cheers!
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