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warmi wrote: How the hell do you know it is "utter bullshit" ... have you been there ?
Have you investigated this issue on your own , spoken to people involved, etc ?
Looks like there is no other way, other than to quote straight from the horse's mouth. Here is one article: I suggest you to read at least 2-3 times, there are loads of vital information that anyone can miss a lot of point in the first read.

http://www.democracynow.org/2006/2/14/n ... the_not_so

It is an interview between an Israeli professor and former Foreign Minister of Israel - yes, straight from the horse's mouth. That is one thing I like about Israeli, they can also launch one of the staunchest oppositions to anything resembles holocaust. :wink:

And I assure you, there is at least one article to my knowledge of another former foreign minister admitting that no one in the world would not become terrorist had the same treatment given to Palestine given to them. It is indeed stupid not to be terrorist - if you know what I mean.

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This is utter bullshit, anyone who knows what really happened over there will laugh over your head on your ignorance - sorry to say this. And many Americans are definitely guilty on this area.
And to prove that you quote "A daily TV/radio news program, hosted by Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzalez, airing on over 700 stations, pioneering the largest community media collaboration in the U.S. " ?
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I dont understand, what that has got to do with this "Have you investigated this issue on your own , spoken to people involved, etc ?".

And I am expecting your comment on this so called Palestinian the suicide-bomber or terrorist.
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I think both sides there are doing very evil things which I condemn.

Both sides should clean up their act.

I can understand why the Palestinians are pissed off. I would be pissed off if the same was done to me, in fact I would be extremely pissed off.

I can understand why the Israelis are pissed off.

What I don't like is that at times when it seems there could be peace, one or the other side makes sure no peace is achieved. I have seen both Palestinians and Israelis guilty of this. I think there are some extremists on both sides for which a "peace" is not enough, they want total victory and nothing less.
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syedhs wrote:I dont understand, what that has got to do with this "Have you investigated this issue on your own , spoken to people involved, etc ?".

And I am expecting your comment on this so called Palestinian the suicide-bomber or terrorist.
The mere fact that your refer to these people as "so-called" terrorists betrays your bias.

If someone goes and blows up a cafe or a bus killing dozens of random people in the process, there is nothing “so-calledâ€
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Here is another link: [url=http://www.democracynow.org/2006/2/14/f ... ister_if_i]Fmr. Israeli Foreign Minister: “If I were a Palestinian, I Would Have Rejected Camp Davidâ€
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[quote="syedhs"]Here is another link: [url=http://www.democracynow.org/2006/2/14/f ... ister_if_i]Fmr. Israeli Foreign Minister: “If I were a Palestinian, I Would Have Rejected Camp Davidâ€
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syedhs wrote:
reptor wrote: What I don't like is that at times when it seems there could be peace, one or the other side makes sure no peace is achieved. I have seen both Palestinians and Israelis guilty of this.
If you have actually taken time to read both links (especially the second one), then you know the better answer.
Thanks for the links, I read also the second article now. It starts by explaining the situation pretty much how I thought it was (I roughly remember the negotiations when they were on-going).

But are you trying to say that only one side is a trouble maker? I don't think so. During the years I have followed their conflicts, I have had a feeling many many times that both sides have some kind of a "pride" problem which prevents them from reaching a lasting peace solution.
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