Volunteers Needed for Huge Christian Video Game Projects!!

dcworks · Post by **dcworks** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:40 pm

Volunteers Needed!! Work together for the greatest cause that you can ever work forâ€¦to bring people to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ! to share the good news about what Jesus Christ has done for them!

DigiChristWorks Game Studio is looking for people with all different skills and gifts to work on an rpg series that will lift up the name of Jesus and draw all men to know the one who loves us and is alive and comes to give us eternal Life and eternal purpose". You will be working with the game director/CEO of a multi-facet company that is working on game development, digital animation and digital evangelizing to reach everyone with the Good News of God. Our heart is that everyone comes to know the Good things God has in store for all of us by reaching people through digital media. If you have no interest in joining this team, please do not reply with harsh words of contention, just move along. This company under the leading of the Holy Spirit will expand rapidly because our vision goes just beyond making games to make games but the purpose is that everyone is drawn closer to Jesus Christ and his Love!! The CEO has a vision straight from the Lord and you have a chance to be a part of something big. The qualifications are 1)An open and humble heart, willing to be under authority to allow God to use you in a great way under the direction of the CEO 2)We are not looking for religious people, argumentative people, and people of contention, but someone that recognizes that this something from God ( this is not a thread to post your feelings about religion, it is an invitation, and NOT A FORCE, but something great 3) a faithful and loyal heart that will be willing to go to the end with the project and allow God to reward them in a great way (people of faith) ..... It is more than just getting together to make games but your life will be transformed and marked by the Power of God and you will experience Jesus like never before!!!

WILL BE UNDER THE LEAD AND SPIRITUAL AUTHORITY OF THE CEO OF DIGICHRISTWORKS SO MUST COME WITH A SIMPLE AND PURE HEART AND WILLING TO ALLOW GOD TO HELP YOU GROW AND MATURE SPIRITUALLY ALSO, A VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR. MUST ALSO BE A TEAM-ORIENTED PERSON BUT ALSO ABLE TO BE SELF-MOTIVATED AND MOST IMPORTANTLYâ€¦.LOVE JESUS CHRIST (WHO DIED FOR ALL OF US AND IS ALIVE!!)

Positions Needed
Please email with detail description of yourself, qualifications, you work or projects you have done and experience and your relationship with Jesus and your testimony of how you got saved!

NOTE!! YOU MUST BE ABLE TO OWN THE SOFTWARE YOU ARE WORKING WITH!! MOST OF THE SOFTWARE WE USE ARE OPEN SOURCE AND ARE FREE SO IF YOU HAVE THE GIFT AND TALENT THAN YOU WILL BE FINE!

Concept Artists (That can draw manga/anime style characters)
3D Character Modelers (Familiar with the most common 3D modeling software and tasks, particularly blender)
3D Game Level Designers (Familiar with various 3D modeling software particularly blender, and various Level Building software)
Riggers and animators (Must be flexible when it comes to choice of softwareâ€¦blender preferred but we are taking all into consideration)
Game Designers (Versatile and has skillsets in almost every area of production in order to collaborate efficiently, will be in charge of writing the design document)
- Design Director
- Lead Director
- Junior Director
Programmers (Must be able to programming in various languages and be familiar with OGRE, IRRLITCH AND/OR CRYSTAL SPACE 3D The heaver the skillset and experience the better chance of being qualified â€“ must be able to learn lite-c)
-Gameplay Programmer
-AI Programmer
-Tools Programmer
-Graphics Programmer
-and more..
Level Editor â€“ (Must be able to work with various level building software)
Sound engineer
Executive Assistant (Must be able to aid the CEO and Pastor in every area)
Legal advisor - This position still available - a business Lawyer willing to offer legal counsel and assistance pro bono.
Human Resources Team - The HR department helps us staff our project, keeps the staff needs coordinated, and meets other non-development but ever so important needs of the project related to administration, paperwork, marketing, staffing and recruiting.
Marketing - Must be capable of thinking outside the box, to find new and creative ways to market our products and our team needs to the general public. Must already have or be willing to establish reputable contacts in the game industry, to meet the needs of the project.
Recruiters - Current requirements: Must be Fluent in English, with good writing and spelling skills, knowledge of resources to seek recruits, familiarity with the needs of the team, excited about the game project, and willing to interact with recruits in the pre-screening process .
IT Department- All aspects of Internet and Intranet Technology, including server maintenance, networking, web hosting, and web development.
Web Developer - Must be a dedicated team member willing to assist and collaborate with the Web Development Team to create and maintain our new website currently being re-designed. (No 3rd party interests will be considered, all website development will be handled internally. Thank you.)

Things you should know before you apply...
Please be advised that we currently do not have funding to offer paid positions. All work being done on the project is by volunteers, who work mainly from home, and communicate over the internet. A reliable internet connection is essential for participating on the DIGICHRISTWORKS Development Team. There is no promise, explicit or implied, that work on this project will result in monetary compensation. While we do hope to obtain funding sufficient to offer competitively paid positions to all team members, there is no guarantee or promise that this will ever happen. We are all volunteers here, even the business owner.

Please be aware that this is a professional work environment. Just because we are volunteers does not mean that anyone on the team should behave in a rude or vulgar fashion. I feel that if we are to compete in a professional game development world that the project must be conducted with a professional attitude as well. This means that we expect all members of the team to treat one another with the same level of respect, courtesy and politeness that want people to show us.

If you feel that you can be a help to this project feel free to email us with details about yourself and what you can offer to the team

email digichristworks@gmail.com with your info.
Thank you all and God bless!!!

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DONATE ANY EQUIPMENT OR MONEY OR ANYTHING THAT GOD HAD PLACED ON YOUR HEART THAN PLEASE EMAIL US AT DIGICHRISTWORKS@GMAIL.COM GOD BLESS YOU

Post by **jacmoe** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:05 pm

Wow. Pretty cool project!

I just wanted to throw in the link to DigiChristWorks.
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

Er, by the way:
You *are* going to use Ogre3D, right?
And Blender, naturally.
Nice that you're basing it on open source.

Virion · Post by **Virion** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:07 pm

sad to tell that he also announced this in the irrlicht forum.

Post by **jacmoe** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:55 pm

Virion wrote:sad to tell that he also announced this in the irrlicht forum.

Bring on the competition, then.

Post by **haffax** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:44 am

Oh bummer, I am not allowed in.
Is this really going to be Ogre based anyway?
And is there anyone working on it at all yet? There is just about any position open that I can even remotely imagine a software project needs.

Post by **xavier** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:46 am

Virion wrote:sad to tell that he also announced this in the irrlicht forum.

Is this really going to be Ogre based anyway?

It sounds to me like the OP doesn't even know -- perhaps he simply posted this in every site that seemed remotely to have to do with 3D graphics or gaming? Has anyone looked at GameDev to see if he posted there too?

I'm leaning towards locking or removing this post, because while it sounds like a fine idea, it's nothing to do with Ogre that I can tell.

Post by **haffax** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:56 am

I vote for removal.
A day to give the OP time to respond. Ogre being mentioned there seems to be the result of a google search rather than proper evaluation and the website doesn't seem to have any substantial content at all.

Post by **jacmoe** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:57 am

Christian Spam??!

Am I shocked.?!

Post by **jacmoe** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:03 am

OK.
Let's begin:
RPG Maker VX forum.
RPG Maker XP forum.
A7 GameStudio forum.
GarageGames forum.
CeltX forum. (CeltX is 'Media Preproduction' something).
YouTube.

I expect DigitalChristNetwork - or should I say: DigitalCrusaderNetwork - to spread even further..

Sad, really.

_tommo_ · Post by **_tommo_** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:25 am

And I must say that i'm a little scared by the fusion he does between "CEO" "pastor" and "prophet"... this way if you do something wrong you don't get fired, you go straight to hell

Post-modern-neocapitalistic-neocon-christianity?

Post by **jacmoe** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:57 pm

A Christian RPG sounds pretty cool!

DigiChristWorks has been well received by various communities, and I'd like Ogre forum to be no different.

However, this topic doesn't meet the requirements for this forum:

Please only post in this area if you have a _serious_ project proposition for which you already have something to show for.

Right now, I can't see anything but good spirit.

Post by **haffax** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:14 pm

jacmoe wrote: DigiChristWorks has been well received by various communities, and I'd like Ogre forum to be no different.

You probably don't mean the irrlicht community by this.

There dcworks wrote a "response": http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/phpBB2/ ... 775#179775

Anyway, unless someone makes a valid case, this thread is going to be removed.

Post by **jacmoe** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:26 pm

haffax wrote:
jacmoe wrote: DigiChristWorks has been well received by various communities, and I'd like Ogre forum to be no different.
You probably don't mean the irrlicht community by this.
There dcworks wrote a "response": http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/phpBB2/ ... 775#179775

Wow.
The IrrLicht forum sure is immature.

This was the first comment:

you even top the announcement from the 15 year old's these days.
programming for GOD? under the lead of the great CEO?
WHAT THE HELL?!

I am astonished.
I mean, read the rest of the topic..

IrrLicht has some serious forum problems.
That would never be allowed to happen here.

TrueVision and A7 forums were more mature about it.

Haffax, I am not sure what you mean by "response".
I see nothing wrong with God loves you.
Certainly is better than childish ridicule and foul remarks.

Chris Jones · Post by **Chris Jones** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:35 pm

Anyway, unless someone makes a valid case, this thread is going to be removed.

Couldn't it just be moved to the off-topic forum rather than removed completely?

Post by **jacmoe** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:46 pm

Yes. I move it.

@dcworks:
You're welcome to post in the recruitment forum, once you fulfill the forum requrements.

_tommo_ · Post by **_tommo_** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:55 pm

Really, i see the point in the replies in the Irrlicht forums...because the thing isn't at all limited to "god loves you".

It involves donations of real money to save your soul, pyramid schemes, indoctrination, fusion of marketing and religion, blind following of a "leader" (the CEO) who knows the supreme truth... and a good dose of cross-forum posting.

It's the base of any fundametalism, and I don't like it at all.

He tells that you should donate to Jesus, but meanwhile he takes the cash.

Post by **haffax** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:07 pm

jacmoe wrote: Haffax, I am not sure what you mean by "response".
I see nothing wrong with God loves you.
Certainly is better than childish ridicule and foul remarks.

I am not the least impressed by his self-righteous waffle and yes "God loves you" is wrong in this context. It is solely used to claim moral high ground, where none is warranted.

Post by **jacmoe** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:15 pm

If we don't like it, we don't like it.
That doesn't give any of us the rights to misbehave.
If you're not impressed, Haffax - and I am not impressed either, but that's not the issue here - you are entitled to be unimpressed.
But that doesn't warrant bad behaviour.
In fact, that makes us self-righteous too.

Post by **Kojack** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:51 pm

A game with a religious setting? No problem (there's plenty of games with norse and greek gods). Wanting the entire dev team to follow the beliefs of the ceo? Still fine.

But that post is just completely over the top. It's not a guy looking for some fellow christians to work on a game, this sounds like a tv evangelist, specifically one of the less reputable ones.

IrrLicht has some serious forum problems.
That would never be allowed to happen here.

No need to bash the irrlicht forum, there was nothing in that thread out of place.

Let's take a closer look at the opening post:

must be able to learn lite-c

Lite-C is a free games development language. If programmers must learn it, then this project isn't going to be ogre or irrlicht based.

The CEO has a vision straight from the Lord

Ok...

willing to be under authority to allow God to use you in a great way under the direction of the CEO

I get a bit nervous whenever one person claims to speak for god. Isn't this the way most cults start? Usually they involve building secure compounds rather than rpgs, but still...

We are not looking for religious people

AND MOST IMPORTANTLYâ€¦.LOVE JESUS CHRIST

Umm, it's a game about christianity, lead by a ceo who is given visions of game design by god and will have spiritual authority over the team, which is designed to spread christianity, and you have to love jesus, but you can't be religious?
How many non religious people would work on such a project under those conditions?

The website is virtually empty, but the biggest page is where they ask for paypal donations, playing mmos to earn money, and selling a christian rap dvd.
From the site:

Donate
Your faith sewn seed will be used to promote the Global Vision of the Kingdom of God by funding Crusades

Please be careful throwing the word "crusades" around, some parts of the world are still waiting for an apology for the previous ones.

We have provided a way for you to be able to still sew into God's kingdom which will then in turn put you into position to receives blessings upon your lives. MetaRl provides a way you can make virutal dollars by filling out surveys and every survey you fill out will give you points which will help you to be able to enjoy the beneifts of MMOs like habbo without paying for credits.

My wow gold farmer sense is tingling. Not as useful as spider-sense, but I make do with what I have.

Just to make it clear, I have no problem with the idea, but the post and website (combined with spamming it to various game dev forums while ignoring their rules) looks so much like either a scam or the rantings of a cult leader.

How many game recruitment posts on here ask for cash and equipment donations before even getting a team together?

Post by **jacmoe** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:34 pm

Kojack, I agree with you fully.

JohnJ · Post by **JohnJ** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:36 pm

dcworks: What you probably should do is research or get volunteers to research technologies, engines, etc. that will be required to complete your project. At that point you'll be able to recruit people who will be familiar with whatever engine, etc. you're using. For example if you had already determined that Ogre is the engine you'll use for your game, this post would be a perfectly valid recruit entry on this site.

Otherwise, cross-posting recruitment posts on multiple engine's sites is generally considered a bad thing because it shows that you either haven't determined what engine you're going to use, or you don't care because it's spam or a hoax. I don't think this is spam or a hoax personally (like some people are bound to) - I think you just need to do a little more research so you know how to recruit for a project like this properly.

dcworks · Post by **dcworks** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:50 pm

Thank you so much for your advice. God bless you all. If you feel this is a spam or hoax then this is not for you and just as i said in my first post you can move along. To the moderators if you feel what i posted is incorrect for your forums than i apologize and you have the right to close the post. To those who are critics, one advice is to take time to ask the person what he or she meant before you draw up your own conclusions because you could be wrong or misunderstand. Not in public so you can defame a person's character who did nothing to you. Dont waste time being a critic because critics just critique they dont have time to actually do things because they just want their voice heard. Each person who said something harsh never even took the time to talk to me because their intentions was just to find fault, im pretty sure if your life was posted on youtube there would be some things you are not proud of..PLEASE THIS IS NOT A THREAD TO VENT YOUR OPINIONS why waste your time? this will be the last time i will speak on this thread a lie is short lived so if what iam saying is false, then it will not stand that i can gurantee...take care everyone may God bless you all

P.S We are not here to bash and accuse, leave that Job for the devil, The job that God has placed for us on this earth is to love one another and uplift one another, if you dont take time to understand someone before you accuse them no matter how smart you think you are, you are only being self-confident, prideful and unloving because you would never want anyone to do the same to you. Take care

reptor · Post by **reptor** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:18 pm

I think you should at least have tried to answer the questions and criticism presented to you here if you want this thread to not get deleted.

Judging by your previous post. As you didn't bother to do that then this thread is clearly spam in my eyes and should be deleted as soon as possible.

Post by **xavier** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:31 pm

It won't be deleted in Off-Topic.

jjp · Post by **jjp** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:59 pm

Pretty much agree with Kojack, especially after reading the second posting from dcworks.

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Volunteers Needed for Huge Christian Video Game Projects!!

Volunteers Needed for Huge Christian Video Game Projects!!

Thanks for all of your advice....