ATI drivers not working in Linux

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ATI drivers not working in Linux

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So I recently installed Ubuntu (Jaunty) for the first time on my old Dell laptop. I've had the thing for almost 5 years, and it has some integrated ATI Mobility Radeon card (x300 I think :oops: ), and I haven't been able to successfully update the drivers yet. Here's everything I've tried so far:

I checked System->Administrator->Hardware Drivers and there was nothing listed. So then I went to ATI's website and downloaded the drivers to install myself, since I've never used Linux and this is how I would do it in Windows. It took several attempts using different things to get it to work, but finally "sudo sh ./<drivers package> --buildandinstallpkg Ubuntu/jaunty" got them installed. When I applied them and rebooted, Ubuntu crashed during boot up and I had to roll back the drivers to the default.
Then a friend recomended envyNG to install the drivers, so I got that and tried it. When envyNG installed the drivers, not only did Ubuntu crash while booting again, but it locked up and I couldn't get in to Ubuntu anymore. Since I had just installed Ubuntu and it didn't take that long, I just reinstalled it and tried again from scratch. This time I started with envyNG, but now the drivers it's finding it says are not recomended OR compatible, so I didn't install them.

Ultimately I'm trying to get a Windows game to run using Wine, but I need to upgrade my video drivers before it will work. I'm completely stumped at this point, and was hoping some of youz guyz who have been using Linux from the whomb and probably rewrite the kernel for fun might have some ideas. This is in preparation for my new computer I'm building soon to see if I can use Ubuntu and still play my Windows games, or if I need to just go ahead and get Vista.

I tried posting on the Ubuntu forums, but I haven't gotten any response. Unfortunately it only takes about 5 minutes for a thread to get pushed off the page there. :?
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I'm sorry for not being able to help with the driver problem, but I can tell my opinion that if you want to keep playing Windows games then you will have to have a dual-boot setup so that you can boot into Linux or Windows.

The dual-booting is not difficult to setup - you install Windows first and then Linux and it should set it up for you or at least it should offer to set it up for you during installation. At least with Debian this is very easy to do. So don't be too afraid of this if you didn't yet try to do it.
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Re: ATI drivers not working in Linux

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Bad news I'm afraid:

http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/alpha6
A new XServer, version 1.6, is included in Alpha 6. The binary proprietary fglrx driver is not yet supported for this server and will exhibit various serious issues if run against it. Users of this driver are encouraged to wait or to switch to the open source -ati driver in the meantime.
The good news is that the ATI drivers work fine on Intrepid, well, as fine as you can expect ATI drivers to work anyway :P. The bad news is that you will have to reinstall Ubuntu to roll back to the previous version. May I also suggest, if you have not done so already, that you create a separate partition for your /home directory, this way you will automatically retain all personal data if you have to reinstall Ubuntu again (you can also share the home partition if you ever want multiple distributions of Linux installed). This is done easily by choosing to manually partition during the installation process. I recommend a 20 GB (10 GB will do if you are short on space) partition mounted to the root "/", a swap partition equal to 2x your RAM (1x is fine if you need the space, 2x is probably just being excessive :P), and the rest of the space as a partition mounted to "/home".

I have found that ATI drivers generally suck on both Windows and Linux, I've never had a problem with Nvidia on either OS. The main problem with ATI on Linux at the moment is a bug which means you cannot run desktop effects alongside graphical apps, unless you can put up with unsightly flickering all the time. Shout if you need any help.
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reptor wrote:I'm sorry for not being able to help with the driver problem, but I can tell my opinion that if you want to keep playing Windows games then you will have to have a dual-boot setup so that you can boot into Linux or Windows.
Not necessarily. The reason I was trying this is because there's a Linux app called Wine (see AppDB for programs that have been tested) that lets you run Windows apps in Linux. It works for many games, such as WoW, GuildWars, EVE, etc... So I was gonna try that out to see if I could run my games on Linux instead of having to buy Windows for my new system.

@hpesoj - Thanks for pointing that out. I'll try rolling back to intreped and see if that works since I haven't actually done anything with jaunty yet except try to install the drivers. Unfortunately I'm stuck with ATI right now on my laptop since it's integrated, and the laptop's falling apart so I'm not going to upgrade anything.
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I know about Wine.

I am afraid that you will be disappointed with it so I tried to bring your hopes down a little bit :)

So that you would not be as disappointed as I was when I found out I can't really get rid of Windows if I want to keep playing games.

Of course, if you only ever want to play a game that is known to work 100 % on Wine, then there is no problem... but I hardly believe that would be the case.
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I have an old Dell with a Mobility Radeon x300, and I've had both Ubuntu and Gentoo on it for the past... many years. I haven't used the thing in a while (<3 my new thinkpad) but the first time I played through Half Life 2 was on that laptop with Wine under Ubuntu... dapper? So I'm sure you /can/ get fglrx working on it, somehow. Back then there was no restricted drivers manager, so I'm not sure how exactly to do it now.
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ATI is usually a problem with Linux. I've heard you're getting a new computer? Aim for Nvidia.
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Re: ATI drivers not working in Linux

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Hi
Some useful links:
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/l ... ng=English
http://wiki.cchtml.com/

I think second links mention that final driver for old cards is 9.3 .
Many bugs fixed in new drivers .Don't use jockey or envyng to install very old driver and use guidelines in 3rd link to install driver manually.

Good luck.
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