President Obama's domestic policy

[VictorMoran]

The president is doing a good job, The country was losing 800,000 jobs a month in January, and in less than 8 month we are losing 250,000. That's a positive trend.

Except, the President has no power to "create" jobs. The economy creates jobs, and no one runs or controls that. Keynesian economics has been proven untenable many times over.

That much is right, the president cannot create jobs the private sector does, but the policies of the president can create an atmosphere of stability that help the private sector to create real jobs.
The stimulus package has facilitated small businesses to keep people employed, and slow down the hemorrhages of Jobs lost.
Even in a state with so many problems like California Governor Schwarzenegger, a Republican, recently said that if it was not for the stimulus the situation would have being much worse now.

You'll have to show me where he's demonstrated any such tendency -- last I heard, he basically said they can all go to hell and he'll get his stuff done without them. Hell, he's basically tossed the radical left aside too -- they are just as up in arms over the state of the "health care reform" effort as the radical right is, but for entirely different reasons. And with limp wrists like Pelosi and Reid "running" Congress, there's little actual chance of resolving that. Republican resistance is a given -- it's the resistance from his own party that is a bigger problem for Obama.

What has you being listening too? Every bill the president has sent to congress has being water down trying to please the Republican,
and at the end the Republican has voted NO unanimously Leaving the democrats with a half baked build.
I, am with Bill Maher, I wish the President have bigger Balls, and acted like Bush did when they had 50 senators and the Vice President; they lock out the Democrats and vote every bill in reconciliation.
But now it appears that we have a White House that is intimidated by the marching order from Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity to the fellow Republicans in congress.
The Republicans has no power, but they want to govern the nation from AM radio and Fox News.

[xavier]

What has you being listening too?

Mostly, the AP wire and factcheck.org -- since I had to move away from the Bay Area I really miss my KCBS all-news channel...up here in Portland, it's either FOX, AirAmerica or the classic rock FM station and that last one is the only one I can stand for long without induced nausea...

The president is doing a good job, The country was losing 800,000 jobs a month in January, and in less than 8 month we are losing 250,000. That's a positive trend.

Except, the President has no power to "create" jobs. The economy creates jobs, and no one runs or controls that. Keynesian economics has been proven untenable many times over.

That much is right, the president cannot create jobs the private sector does, but the policies of the president can create an atmosphere of stability that help the private sector to create real jobs.
The stimulus package has facilitated small businesses to keep people employed, and slow down the hemorrhages of Jobs lost.
Even in a state with so many problems like California Governor Schwarzenegger, a Republican, recently said that if it was not for the stimulus the situation would have being much worse now.

We can agree on that much, I suppose -- but bear in mind that this "stimulus" was in play well before even the election; the only thing left up for debate was the price tag. Again, the people who were in charge before, still are...

and at the end the Republican has voted NO unanimously Leaving the democrats with a half baked build.

There is no argument here that the Republican party misinterprets the idea and duty of "loyal opposition" -- being the "Party of No" serves no ones interests.

But now it appears that we have a White House that is intimidated by the marching order from Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity to the fellow Republicans in congress.

I am pretty sure that Rahm Immanuel would take great exception to that characterization. Except, of course, that they clearly pay attention (for some reason) to what the talking heads have to say:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/reality- ... -of-shame/

So maybe there is some truth to that...I certainly don't recall Bill Clinton giving a flying f*** what Rush Limbaugh had to say or think...

BTW, any new posts on this topic should start a new thread, otherwise we risk the wrath of Jacmoe.

[warmi]

The stimulus package has facilitated small businesses to keep people employed, and slow down the hemorrhages of Jobs lost.

Uh not really .. in fact just the opposite. The stimulus package contains little known provision which essentially makes it almost impossible for small businesses to benefit from any federal funds.

Two provisions of the stimulus bill incorporate the prevailing wage requirements of the Federal Davis-Bacon Act. The Davis-Bacon Act requires federal contractors to pay laborers and mechanics not less than the prevailing wage rates for corresponding classes of laborers and mechanics employed on similar projects in the same area. The Secretary of Labor determines prevailing wage rates for inclusion in covered contracts.

This has nothing to do with stimulating small business but rather is a pay off to heavily unionized "insider" companies which are the only entities abiding by the orwellian named "prevailing wage rates".
In other words, Chicago style politics at its best.

[VictorMoran]

Uh not really .. in fact just the opposite. The stimulus package contains little known provision which essentially makes it almost impossible for small businesses to benefit from any federal funds.
This has nothing to do with stimulating small business but rather is a pay off to heavily unionized "insider" companies which are the only entities abiding by the orwellian named "prevailing wage rates".
In other words, Chicago style politics at its best.

Warmi I will repeat to you what I told you before, You have to stop listening to Rush, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin and Sean Hannity.
Those people are not real Journalist they are Entertainers.
They have to say Outrageous stuff to keep the tiny number of people in the fringe interested.
When you listen to those people claiming 8, 12 or some time even 20 million listeners, you think that’s a lot of people but those are the people in the fringe.
It is very simple Warmi, the number is good for saling sponsors Ads but it is not enough to win elections.

I know you are in the Joe the Plumber, the 9/12 and the Tea Baggers demographics but please trying listen to CSPAN so that you are a little more informed.
When you take marching orders from wackjobs, then you end up believing nonsesence like:
-stimulating small business but rather is a pay off to heavily unionized "insider" companies which are the only entities abiding by the orwellian named "prevailing wage rates".
-voluntary works is are youth concentration camp
-Health care is Euthanasia for old people,
-2% of the people is the Electoral Critical Mass

But hey, do not feel bad, you are not the only one, even Republican representative in congress get that kind of confusion and they do it on national BRAND NAME.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wjl5svcp2U

[xavier]

Warmi I will repeat to you what I told you before, You have to stop listening to Rush, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin and Sean Hannity.

Therefore, I can repeat to you what I've told you before -- an intersection of ideas or opinions does not presuppose a source.

Now, you've both made me split the thread...

[warmi]

I know you are in the Joe the Plumber, the 9/12 and the Tea Baggers demographics but please trying listen to CSPAN so that you are a little more informed.
When you take marching orders from wackjobs, then you end up believing nonsesence like:
-stimulating small business but rather is a pay off to heavily unionized "insider" companies which are the only entities abiding by the orwellian named "prevailing wage rates".
-voluntary works is are youth concentration camp
-Health care is Euthanasia for old people,
-2% of the people is the Electoral Critical Mass

It is not nonsense but just facts.
Look it up , the prevailing wage rates clause is right there in the bill ... one would think a normal free market oriented society would not need a secretary of labor to determine what is a "just" wage since these things are generally determined between people who do the work and their consumers, but hey, the provision is right there and there is no other reason for it other than ensure artificially high rates for unionized shops which would otherwise have hard time competing in the marketplace.
Of course, the fact that with this provision in place, the same stretch of highway will cost taxpayers 30% more, is of no concern to these people ... and that's how you end up with 1.5 trillion deficits.